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Couple questions about ESOTSM

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:51 am
by KC8t80
Who is the faint voice at the beginning of the movie? the one where Joel is at the house on the beach. Is it Naomi or Clem?

What is clem sniffing in the train scene? Some kind of inhailer?

and

Is drawing Joel's career or just a hobbie?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:45 pm
by Niobe
Hmm, can't quite remember that faint voice at the beginning (good excuse to watch the film again! :wink: )

The thing Clem is sniffing is a bit like the 'Vick Sticks' my Dad used to use on his nose. They unblock your nose when you have a cold or something. All menthol like. You give it a good ole sniff and it really does do the trick.

I'm trying to remember if they mentioned in the book (screenplay one) about Joel's job, but I can't remember so I'll have to go back and check, but I'm thinking that his job may involve something like that. Got that psychic feeling...... *do-do, do-do...*

Re: Couple questions about ESOTSM

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:05 am
by Niobe
KC8t80 wrote:Who is the faint voice at the beginning of the movie? the one where Joel is at the house on the beach. Is it Naomi or Clem?

The movies gods were clearly smiling down on me tonight, as what turns up on TV but the very film!! :D
Anyways, that voice is so faint it's hard to say who it is. But he is talking about Naomi at the time, so perhaps it's supposed to be her? :?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:26 am
by KC8t80
that was my thought....but i figured it was clem....since the beginning of the movie is after he has his memory wiped so certain things they show tend to have an audio-like flash-back and the house is sugnificant to her and Joel.

but who knows.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:03 am
by Clemmy
I don't remember any voices besides Joel's at that part of the movie... I'll have to watch it again... But, now that you mentioned Naomi... there is a deleted scene in which Joel calls Naomi and basically says that it is not a good idea to get back together at that point... then he calls Clem. So... who knows...!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:06 pm
by Niobe
If you have the two disc version you get to see even more deleted Naomi scenes. She actually seems very sweet too. Well, as much as you can say that about a fictional person. Lol.

Some of my favourites scenes are the deleted ones from Clem's flat when she and Joel are talking (the 'Blue Ruin's bit). They do pretty much all the bits from the original screenplay, and I think those scenes are so beautiful, sensitive and intimate. :)

As for that voice.....I'm gonna have to watch the whole of the start of the film again (what a chore! :roll: ) and try and listen/view in context.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:18 pm
by KC8t80
i'm left out the addtional deleted scenes snice i only have the single disc DVD.....i can only get the 2-disc online.

but i am going to watch it again and see if it is who i think it is.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:55 pm
by nina
Some of my favourites scenes are the deleted ones from Clem's flat when she and Joel are talking (the 'Blue Ruin's bit). They do pretty much all the bits from the original screenplay, and I think those scenes are so beautiful, sensitive and intimate.


that is from the two disc version, right? cause I can't remember that from the single one..

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:58 pm
by fluffy
yep......it's worth getting that one..................

fluffy :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:04 pm
by nina
yeah, I want that one soooooo much!! anyone who wants to buy it to me? O:) .......

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:07 pm
by Niobe
nina wrote:yeah, I want that one soooooo much!! anyone who wants to buy it to me? .......

I think you need to sweet-talk a relative with a credit/debit card and get them to buy it online for you. :wink:

There's a lovely interview with Kate Winslet and Michel Gondry too. Lots of great extra extra's. 8)
Plus in mine you got a fantastic little press book thingy, not sure if that was standard but it had some gorgeous photos and quotes inside. Like this one from Jim:

"The screenplay hit a nerve in me. Although it's complex, it's very relatable. It's one of those rare times where you are involved in something that makes you thankful for your painful experiences, I could not have played the part without living it."

Aawwww, bless him.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:44 pm
by fluffy
yeah it hit a nerve with me too.................that's what drew me to this site i guess........but there's something else.......i'm still figuring it out.......

fluffy :?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:09 pm
by Niobe
True.....if Jim hadn't have played Joel Barish in that film I'm not sure I'd have made it here to JCO. :-k That film, his portrayal, Joel's character, the stuff I've read and found out about the film and its making since.......just blew me away. I've seen some remarkable films in my life, but I can honestly say that no film has ever made an impression on me like ESOTSM did. Has. Some things just touch you like that......

But, there is something else about Jim too....there's some kind of draw there that other actors can't manage....

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:52 pm
by nina
Who is the faint voice at the beginning of the movie? the one where Joel is at the house on the beach. Is it Naomi or Clem?


I had to check this, it made me really curious, and I found out; It's Clementine :wink: the faint voice is saying "It's our house, just for tonight, we are David and Ruth Laskin" just like Clementine said when they were at the house in his last memory.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:45 am
by Niobe
Whoah! Well spotted Nina. =D> You must have had the volume turned up real loud to catch those words.
Another mystery solved. 8)